I’m still a total Twitter newbie (despite my total Twitter avalanche – Twit-alanche? — from The Idea Camp). And yet, I already find my writing being Twitter-ized… 140 characters or less! So, here are my bullet-pointed, tweetified notes from the panel discussion on leadership with Eugene Cho, Scott Hodge and Dave Gibbons.
What is leadership?
- Dave Gibbons: leadership is servanthood; servanthood is building trust and bearing pain
- Eugene Cho: simply a leader is someone who leads, but the key question is really how do you lead?
Can you share what contrarian church leadership looks like?
- David Gibbons: typically, structure is hierarchical
- Usually focus on strengths, giftedness, passion – end up with consumeristic perspective on a person
- Look at what is their weakness and pain instead – listen to metanarratives of a person’s life to find out who they really are
- Important to search out obedience – so how do you promote obedience?
What is the Third Culture mindset and will?
- Dave Gibbons: Third Culture in a word, “Adaptation”; in two words, “painful adaptation”
- It is a supernatural thing to love someone not like you
Rhythm of rest and leadership – understand yourself
- Who energizes/de-energizes me? What energizes/de-energizes me?
- It’s not about cutting out people who are de-energizing, but just undestanding ourselves
Balancing family life – Eugene’s wife said, “I don’t want to share you with the church” — so when he’s home, really be there
How do you know if you’re called to be a leader?
- Are people willing to follow you?
- How do you know you’re called into full-time ministry? People he respected affirmed that
- Dave Gibbons: goes back to definition of leader — if define as servant, then all of us are called; comes down to occupation or role
How do you work with someone’s painful metanarrative and make it into a platform to make a difference?
- Dave Gibbons: Your pain will guide you — activities based upon insecurities
- You pain can be the thing that connects us to humanity
- Pain also gives you a platform to speak into people’s lives — everyone understands pain; people can understand theology of suffering
- Eugene Cho: Pain is not the final song of the world; we serve a God of redemption
Eugene: Leadership = influence, how are you stewarding, balancing your influence
Dave Gibbons: Be a great listener (ask people closest to you if you’re a good listener); be a great learner, ask great questions
- Hang out with other kinds of leaders — a business person or artist
- Esp. pastors — we need to listen to women; worldwide, women & children are the most oppressed people
- Best learning is happening in fringe movements
Eugene: at local Christian college, often the kids with most unique perspective are MKs — we need to develop third culture perspective
Eugene: Important not to be defined just by who shows up on Sundays — Mondays through Saturdays are important parts of expression and ecclesiology as well
Balance between global impact and work of their local church
- Dave Gibbons: Knows who he is, buffer of friends & family helps him discern, rhythm of the church (e.g., spring/fall are important to stick around)
- In early years, needed to show stable presence for group that needed it
- Scott: Understand different kinds of invitations (e.g., not taking invitation to speak on marriage because not passionate on teaching about that), learn to say no
- Eugene: he has to honor his schedule that he makes with his board of elders, don’t minimize church or pastors in terms of larger world
What is the role of blessing?
- Dave Gibbons: How many people in your church feel they have been listened to, seen? It’s a lifestyle — you’re an amazing person and I’d love to hang out with you
- But there’s another element because ritual matters – pastor who prayed for him, told him he would do great things and touch many lives, with tears in his eyes — so standing up there today, he still feels his hands on his shoulder, knows he doesn’t stand alone
Great stuff man. I’ve been following everything virtually; alas, missing out in person, but this is a season for me to finish my mDiv or die trying. So, priorities… but sooner or later I’m gonna bump into you and the rest of the blogosphere gang in person… until then
Wayne — I hear you, bro. I’m glad you were able to connect via live streaming & video. Seriously, we missed you there. A huge part of my experience there was connecting with a bunch of friends from our neck of the blogosphere. Even though it was the first face-to-face interaction for many of us, we’ve been so connected via the blogosphere that picking up offline friendships was pretty seamless. Next time, you’ve gotta be there!
Just wanted to hit you back on your blog. You asked:
I like Scribble live.. To be honest it was the first live blog that I’ve ever done and Scribble live happened to be the first program I’ve ever used.. Yeah it automatically sets the time at the start of each post so you don’t have to type – “3:02pm – Jonathan said monkey..” When you are doing live blogging there is a button on the right tool bar that says, “end this session” or something like that and it ends the session. As you are live blogging it puts the most recent post on top but when you conclude the session it flips the whole transcript so that the earliest post is on top and you read down to get to the later post.
For the most part I enjoyed it. It was good seeing you at the idea camp.. Lets keep in touch.
Jonathan — Thanks for stopping by :) Your notes about Scribble live are helpful. Next time I’m live blogging, I think I’ll go that route (instead of cranking out like a million tweets). Yes, looking forward to more friendship & collaboration.
You guys are geeks :) that’s why I like you all…
Charles – Ha! I love it. I came back from The Idea Camp and my wife was saying how my inner geek had been released there :)